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is it possible to defeat Google on their search engine?



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is it possible to defeat Google on their search engine?

I would start a new webmaster forum for my blog site and ranking it to top search but when i check this keyword "webmaster forum", Google is getting 2 first positions (as the picture)

is it possible to defeat Google on their search engine?

I don't know if i build a new webmaster forum it is possible to defeat Google on their search engine to get top 1 on Google search?

I have seen many cases like this and waiting for a valuable answer.

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Helen

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Lynne
I'm with Mike on this one, anything is possible but that does not mean it will be easy that's for sure!

I'm interested to know whether you have run a forum before or not. I did one about 2 years ago on my baby store website and it was so hard to get going that I gave up.

Granted that I didn't have any forum experience at all but I found it really hard trying to get people to interact.

Once again I am not saying it isn't possible but you will need to have a really good game plan, you will need to have a lot of determination and keep going.



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HelenN
Yes I have ran some forums before and they are free forum cms, but if I start this time, I can go for a paid forum cms and hiring good writers to posting on my new forum which will be benefit for SEO

Improving SEO can help me more new members joining the forum daily and posting on it, also increase interactions naturally.



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Lynne
OK great, then you have the experience necessary to run this baby and get it off the ground.

Yes I am sure that hiring great content writers will have a very positive impact, for SEO but also to get things going in the beginning.



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Cristian
I would say no, it isn't possible to outrank Google on "webmaster forum". I also have different results, similar to what Mike got but overall I don't think you can rank in front of Google on this one, they clearly want to hold monopoly

I mean just look at the ranking signals:

is it possible to defeat Google on their search engine?

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is it possible to defeat Google on their search engine?

Just have a look at Google's total backlink history, how can anyone outrank that? Protip: You can't. No even with all the white hat and black hat SEO in the world.



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Corzhens
There is nothing impossible in the internet and that includes Google and other search engines. Right now Bing is flexing its muscles with the Bing Rewards although my take on that scheme is a big failure because it is only available for US residents and the earnings are so minimal that users tend to go back to their habit of using Google. That is the clue to the power of Google – the habit that we have in depending on Google for our needs regarding information.



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