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Asmodeus

What if he is providing the services himself and trading on other people's names?

It could be a problem.

That would be upsetting, as he could do a poor job and ruin the reputation of someone's established username.

The ironic thing that p*ssed me off is that the douche who copied my listing word for word is also charging more than 8 TIMES what I am, yet he's had more orders than I have for that exact service. WTH???

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ericplotz1

Just received this email:

So it looks like somebody is trying to communicate with me via this 3rd party site. I have no desire to enter my details in that site. looks like I will have to lose a sale.

EDIT: found the user on SEOClerks, he was going to buy my service from seoclerk at the higher price.

I was approached with this same conflict. A buyer contacted me via SEOClerks. Should've probably PM'd and told him he can find my same service here for 50% off. Probably will do so in the future.

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Asmodeus

I noticed that site a couple months ago and assumed it was another one of the many clerks sites setup by the same admin, as one of my orders came from there, but still showed up in my normal Seoclerks account.

Can anyone confirm this for us???

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W130SN

I noticed that site a couple months ago and assumed it was another one of the many clerks sites setup by the same admin, as one of my orders came from there, but still showed up in my normal Seoclerks account.

Can anyone confirm this for us???

I don't think it is, I think it is an independent affiliate site, where the owner of that site will take the order, then place it here on SEOClerks and then pocket the difference.
It is a good idea to resell like that but I don't like the fact he is using the same usernames and profile avatars.
If I wanted to sell my service for a higher price I would lol

Unless it is a site owned by SEOClerks and when people see the comparison in prices they order here?

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Asmodeus

GAHHH!! I think you're right! I just looked around and the owner is charging DOUBLE for my services AND another has copied my description word for word!! Bastards!!!

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sunil0021

GAHHH!! I think you're right! I just looked around and the owner is charging DOUBLE for my services AND another has copied my description word for word!! Bastards!!!

Actually it's nor affiliate site and nighter copied ;) it was created by seoclerks to promote more and to bring some more sales to you guys, there is one more website like this which you don't know i think and i'am also creating 1 like this and ready within 10-15 days ;)

cool down buddies!

- Sunil Bishnoi

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Asmodeus

Actually it's nor affiliate site and nighter copied ;) it was created by seoclerks to promote more and to bring some more sales to you guys, there is one more website like this which you don't know i think and i'am also creating 1 like this and ready within 10-15 days ;)

cool down buddies!

- Sunil Bishnoi

Ok, fair enough, but why are all the prices there exactly double what they are here? Why aren't they the same?

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W130SN

Actually it's nor affiliate site and nighter copied ;) it was created by seoclerks to promote more and to bring some more sales to you guys, there is one more website like this which you don't know i think and i'am also creating 1 like this and ready within 10-15 days ;)

cool down buddies!

- Sunil Bishnoi

Not sure you are correct Mate, this looks like an affiliate site to me:
WHOIS for seoclerk http://www.whoismind.com/whois/seoclerk.com.html
WHOIS for SEOClerks http://www.whoismind.com/whois/seoclerks.com.html

I don't have a problem with the genuine affiliate sites as they seem to quote the same price for the services and they will get their affiliate cut but this guy looks like he is charging double and pocketing the difference.

I don't even have a problem if the guy is reselling services and charging double but using the same usernames and profile pics is out of order.

What if he is providing the services himself and trading on other people's names?

It could be a problem.

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W130SN

Actually it looks like the guy reckons he has worked with every major SEO Provider in the last 6 years lol

[url=http://i.imgur.com/c2lM97M.png][img=http://i.imgur.com/c2lM97M.png][/img][/url]

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/thomas-carey/22/745/277

For such an SEO expert, he sure has Keyword Stuffed his LinkedIn Page lol

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W130SN

That would be upsetting, as he could do a poor job and ruin the reputation of someone's established username.

The ironic thing that p*ssed me off is that the douche who copied my listing word for word is also charging more than 8 TIMES what I am, yet he's had more orders than I have for that exact service. WTH???

Wow, now that would be annoying. Like you said, if the guy is providing the service himself then he could ruin your reputation.
Also the fact the same service is listed elsewhere for a higher price may cause doubt in the buyers mind and we could be losing sales.

What if the guy is placing orders with us after he has sold our service then the customer sees prices are cheaper here and cancels his order with that guy. Will the seoclerks guy then just cancel or reject the work provided and cause problems like that.

If that site does have any connection to SEOClerks (I don't think it does) then we should have the ability to decide where our listings are promoted. No problem with a normal affiliate site but I don't want any changes to my listings unless I authorize them.

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sunil0021

Ok, fair enough, but why are all the prices there exactly double what they are here? Why aren't they the same?

Lol (funny)

guys are you aware of : http://microjunky.com/ ?

these website are personally setup'ed by jordan to get some more sales for you, no don't change your orders ;) but still it's hard to explain all as i already said these websites were setup'd by jordan and within few days i'am going to get one!

- Sunil Bishnoi

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W130SN

Lol (funny)

guys are you aware of : http://microjunky.com/ ?

these website are personally setup'ed by jordan to get some more sales for you, no don't change your orders ;) but still it's hard to explain all as i already said these websites were setup'd by jordan and within few days i'am going to get one!

- Sunil Bishnoi

Wow, you are right:

http://www.whoismind.com/whois/microjunky.com.html

SEOClerks Scraper Sites Advertising SEOClerks Services

Not sure I like the idea of my services being offered under my name at a price I did not set.

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sunil0021

Wow, you are right:

http://www.whoismind.com/whois/microjunky.com.html

Not sure I like the idea of my services being offered under my name at a price I did not set.

Actually they generating extra sales for you (facepalm)

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W130SN

Actually they generating extra sales for you (facepalm)

Yes, but obviously I would like my buyers to come direct to me and not some 3rd party site that is making 100% profit on my work.

I have just checked the the Google ranking positions of some random listings and some of those sites/listings are ranking higher in SERPS than SEOClerks.

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W130SN

If I wanted to sell MY service for $10 then I would have priced it at $10
If somebody else wants to re-sell MY service at a higher price under THEIR name at whatever price THEY want then that is fine.

I don't want MY services listed under MY name at any other price than the one I have set.
We should have the option to opt out of these sites.

It looks unprofessional and raises doubts about quality and buyers will question why the same service is offered at different prices on different platforms. It makes the service look LESS legit and LESS valuable.

Many companies offer the same service/product at different prices in different markets BUT they usually use different brand names when doing so.

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Asmodeus

Regarding the Microjunky site; It is obvious that one is owned by Jordan, as it has the Ionicware brand at the bottom, but the seoclerk one does not.

I understand the promotional aspect of it, but I still don't get why the prices are exactly double what they are here. What is the point of becoming your own competition at TWICE the price???

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eziscript

i don't know its a good idea or not, but if seoclerks team allow use to display on these websites or not, this should be a great option.

Thanks,

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Asmodeus

Interesting. I agree with sunil it's nor affiliate site and neither copied. This sites should be made by the owner of SEOClerks because they are accessing SEOClerks database in realtime. It's also showing that I'm online now Has anyone tried login to that sites with SEOClerks username & pass!!! I think that would work too.

It does, but it doesn't show your correct stats/orders.

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W130SN

It would be great if we could get an official response about this.

Also, my ref link is http://a.seoclerks.com/linkin/31594 do we still get credit if we use http://a.seoclerk.com/linkin/31594

https://www.seoclerk.com NOT https://www.seoclerks.com

https://www.seoclerk.com/forum/
https://www.seoclerks.com/forum/

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Asmodeus

I have just logged in there and on the backend everything is same as seoclerks except the price is 2x. But on the frontend it's replacing all "SEOClerks" with "SEOClerks" and making the price 2x. I'm selling here "SEOClerks Affiliate Store WordPress Plugin" and it's showing there "SEOClerks Affiliate Store WordPress Plugin" on the frontend with 2x price and under description all "SEOClerks" replaced with "SEOClerks".

Now when someone will buy the plugin from there.. he'll get "SEOClerks Affiliate Store" not "SEOClerks Affiliate Store" plugin. So after that is he going to left me a positive feedback??? Who will take this liability??? The owner????

Another question is am I going to receive the "2x" payment here or it'll go into owner's pocket???

I wish my balance would become 2x too

You don't get 2x. You just get what you normally get here, as it goes through the DB here at the normal price. The other half goes to that site owner.

As far as the plugin name issue, that should be interesting. Let us know here if you run into any problems with it.

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Asmodeus

It would be great if we could get an official response about this.

Also, my ref link is http://a.seoclerks.com/linkin/31594 do we still get credit if we use http://a.seoclerk.com/linkin/31594

https://www.seoclerk.com NOT https://www.seoclerks.com

https://www.seoclerk.com/forum/
https://www.seoclerks.com/forum/

As far as I know, both work the same

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W130SN

As far as I know, both work the same

Thanks, I hope so as I am sending Traffic to both links and would be hate to be losing signups lol

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Beverly

I wish my balance would become 2x too

You are welcome to charge whatever price(s) you want on SEOClerks, even double what you are charging now. And, that will cause your prices to double again on the other site.

Just start by pushing prices up on some services and see if you get any sales. You might assume that charging more will cut you out of the race, but not necessarily so.

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ericplotz1

I was not aware that my services were being sold for double what I charge. My $35 service is going for $70!!! This is a problem.

I tracked one of my purchases not too long ago back to seoclerk.com and didn't think anything of it because I received a sale from it. I just thought it was cool and didn't know they were charging more for it.

Now, the problem occurs when:

I wasn't made aware of the situation which makes me very skeptical (I am fine tooth combing the TOS now)
The sale registers at SEOclerks for the price I am charging at SEOclerks, yet seoclerks is making double + I pay 20% to SEOclerks. This is not at all legitimate if SEOclerks is running this site,........................ more skeptic arises.

Why would SEOclerks charge double for my services on another site, pocket 50% of the money, and charge me 20% for the $$ made on services at SEOclerks?

For instance, if I have a service that is $10, I make $8. If you are charging $20 I make 40%.

The negative reaction from sellers should have been anticipated here, as well as the questions that would be asked. I don't understand why this hasn't been properly addressed yet.

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Asmodeus

The whole percentage structure is different at MB. Not only are the prices double, but affiliates promoting the MB site get 20%, instead of the 10% they get at SC.

Like was said before, I have no problem with affiliate sites, as I have a few myself, but the "normal" affiliate sites pull our services from SC with the descriptions and prices the way they really are, so that's ok, but sites like MB are misrepresenting our services and prices AND using our established usernames while doing it.

If someone wants to resell our services at double the price, then I would be ok with it only if my username wasn't associated with it as looking "official". It should just be a store listing services with no usernames at all where buyers can purchase a service from that site owner. If it's one of our services then the store owner can buy it from us here as a normal purchase and then deliver it to his client.

At the very least we should have the ability to opt out of the site, or remove certain listings of ours there that we feel are too expensive at twice the price at that site.

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W130SN

The whole percentage structure is different at MB. Not only are the prices double, but affiliates promoting the MB site get 20%, instead of the 10% they get at SC.

Like was said before, I have no problem with affiliate sites, as I have a few myself, but the "normal" affiliate sites pull our services from SC with the descriptions and prices the way they really are, so that's ok, but sites like MB are misrepresenting our services and prices AND using our established usernames while doing it.

If someone wants to resell our services at double the price, then I would be ok with it only if my username wasn't associated with it as looking "official". It should just be a store listing services with no usernames at all where buyers can purchase a service from that site owner. If it's one of our services then the store owner can buy it from us here as a normal purchase and then deliver it to his client.

At the very least we should have the ability to opt out of the site, or remove certain listings of ours there that we feel are too expensive at twice the price at that site.

Exactly, anybody trying to build their own Brand could get complaints later that they overcharged some buyers even though MB is re-selling the service and making the extra money. It just doesn't look professional if you are selling 1 service on 1 site @ $10 and selling exactly the same service on another site @ $20

I don't mind people reselling my services and making extra profit but I don't want them using my name. The normal affiliate sites that charge the same price are fine as they are making 10% affiliate sales etc. The MB guy is making double the profit using our names/brands. Anybody trying to build a Brand or a name for themselves should be concerned about this.

If it isn't dealt with, it will just encourage more people to start similar sites.

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Beverly

It would be great if we could get an official response about this.

For anyone still wondering, there is an official statement about this situation here:

https://www.seoclerks.com/forum/th...8179/#post-49635

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W130SN

Just received this email:

Hi W130SN!

********* has sent you a new message. Check your inbox at https://www.seoclerk.com/inbox to read and respond.

Need help? Be sure to check out our user-generated FAQ for everything you want to know about SEOClerks. If what you're looking for isn't there, you have feedback or just want to say hi, feel free to contact us at [email protected].

Thank you,
SEOClerks

So it looks like somebody is trying to communicate with me via this 3rd party site. I have no desire to enter my details in that site. looks like I will have to lose a sale.

EDIT: found the user on SEOClerks, he was going to buy my service from seoclerk at the higher price.

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Asmodeus

EDIT: found the user on SEOClerks, he was going to buy my service from seoclerk at the higher price.

That's a great idea! Since the username databases are the same for both sites, then you can simply contact them through SC instead and offer them the same service here at half the price. The buyer saves money and you get a direct sale, so its a win/win for both parties.

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Beverly

I was approached with this same conflict. A buyer contacted me via SEOClerks. Should've probably PM'd and told him he can find my same service here for 50% off. Probably will do so in the future.

Are the messaging systems on both sites linked, such as if someone messages me from MBL will I get the message on SEOClerks or do i have to actually login to that other site to see my messages there?

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ericplotz1

Are the messaging systems on both sites linked, such as if someone messages me from MBL will I get the message on SEOClerks or do i have to actually login to that other site to see my messages there?

You have to log in to MB. I get the notification via email. The login info is the same for SEOclerks.

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sunil0021

Just received this email:

So it looks like somebody is trying to communicate with me via this 3rd party site. I have no desire to enter my details in that site. looks like I will have to lose a sale.

EDIT: found the user on SEOClerks, he was going to buy my service from seoclerk at the higher price.

This is not a 3rd party site -_- it's officially setup'ed by @jordan what more to say :confused:

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ericplotz1

This is not a 3rd party site -_- it's officially setup'ed by @jordan what more to say :confused:

What more to say? It's a third party site because it's not SEOclerks, where the services are listed in the first place. Even here https://www.seoclerks.com/forum/th...8179/#post-49635

Jordan himself states it's SeoMer Tech Inc. So how is that not a third party?

Matter of fact you can look up the Linkedin profile on Thomas Carey or SeoMerTech and nothing suggests that it is even affiliated with Jordan. So how it looks is how it looks.

My thing is, you can't put on a Pepsi hat and a Pepsi shirt and open a stand selling Pepsi's for double what Pepsi is selling em' for. My name ericplotz1 is gaining popularity, I have credible people following me and whom i work with, and it would be a shame if one of them saw my services inflated 100% more then what I am selling it for.

Either way, that wasn't the topic that was being discussed. What @W130SN was doing, was just bringing attention to another aspect that shows you just how much of a conflict of interest this whole operation is with MB.

I mean really, how are we supposed to respond to someone who is messaging us on a platform that is pocketing 60% of the overall revenue? I'm supposed to give those people support on that platform? I have a service for directory submissions that is definitely not wort the $$ it is being sold for at MB. How am I supposed to legitimately answer clients if they find the service cheaper here eventually.

Say a client goes to MB and purchases a service then comes over here and sees me selling that same service for less. Don'y you think some questions arise out of that? How do we answer those questions?

Scenario

Client: "Hey I just purchased your service on MB for double of what you are charging here at SEOclerks, why?"

So @sunil0021 from what you are telling me, my response should be:

Me: "The person that owns SEOclerks, Jordan decided it was an awesome idea to link the two sites but inflate the prices 100% on the other site, which btw Im not getting a cut of, so I don't want you to think it's me inflating the price. I still get the same amount here at SEOclerks and would never inflate my prices"

How do you think that person will feel about SEOclerks at that point? [quote]This is not a 3rd party site -_- it's officially setup'ed by @[USER=1]jordan[/USER] what more to say :confused:[/quote] What more to say? It's a third party site because it's not SEOclerks, where the services are listed in the first place. Even here [url]https://www.seoclerks.com/forum/threads/is-seoclerks-seoclerk.8179/#post-49635[/url] Jordan himself states it's SeoMer Tech Inc. So how is that not a third party? Matter of fact you can look up the Linkedin profile on Thomas Carey or SeoMerTech and nothing suggests that it is even affiliated with Jordan. So how it looks is how it looks. My thing is, you can't put on a Pepsi hat and a Pepsi shirt and open a stand selling Pepsi's for double what Pepsi is selling em' for. My name ericplotz1 is gaining popularity, I have credible people following me and whom i work with, and it would be a shame if one of them saw my services inflated 100% more then what I am selling it for. Either way, that wasn't the topic that was being discussed. What @[USER=31695]W130SN[/USER] was doing, was just bringing attention to another aspect that shows you just how much of a conflict of interest this whole operation is with MB. I mean really, how are we supposed to respond to someone who is messaging us on a platform that is pocketing 60% of the overall revenue? I'm supposed to give those people support on that platform? I have a service for directory submissions that is definitely not wort the $$ it is being sold for at MB. How am I supposed to legitimately answer clients if they find the service cheaper here eventually. Say a client goes to MB and purchases a service then comes over here and sees me selling that same service for less. Don'y you think some questions arise out of that? How do we answer those questions? [B][SIZE=5]Scenario[/SIZE][/B] [I][B]Client:[/B] "Hey I just purchased your service on MB for double of what you are charging here at SEOclerks, why?"[/I] So @[USER=23160]sunil0021[/USER] from what you are telling me, my response should be: [I][B]Me:[/B] "The person that owns SEOclerks, Jordan decided it was an awesome idea to link the two sites but inflate the prices 100% on the other site, which btw Im not getting a cut of, so I don't want you to think it's me inflating the price. I still get the same amount here at SEOclerks and would never inflate my prices"[/I] How do you think that person will feel about SEOclerks at that point?

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W130SN

This is not a 3rd party site -_- it's officially setup'ed by @jordan what more to say :confused:

It is a 3rd party site because it is an affiliate site and not an official SEOClerks site.
It doesn't matter who set it up or even who operates it, as any agreements I have made are with SEOClerks NOT seoclerk.
Most of the affiliate sites keep the same prices as SEOClerks and they earn their 10%, which is great.
This guy is jacking up prices and using my name which is NOT OK IMO
I think it is dangerous for people trying to build a brand, to have their services listed on another site at different prices.
The fact that I am expected to respond to customers on seoclerk (a site I NEVER joined or agreed to join) when I will receive less money than the operator of the site is outrageous.

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sunil0021

It is a 3rd party site because it is an affiliate site and not an official SEOClerks site.
It doesn't matter who set it up or even who operates it, as any agreements I have made are with SEOClerks NOT seoclerk.
Most of the affiliate sites keep the same prices as SEOClerks and they earn their 10%, which is great.
This guy is jacking up prices and using my name which is NOT OK IMO
I think it is dangerous for people trying to build a brand, to have their services listed on another site at different prices.
The fact that I am expected to respond to customers on seoclerk (a site I NEVER joined or agreed to join) when I will receive less money than the operator of the site is outrageous.

Then you should contact support and they will remove you from MB and Microjunky.com

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W130SN

Then you should contact support and they will remove you from MB and Microjunky.com

I wasn't aware of MicroJunky, are there any more sites?

http://microjunky.com/user/W130SN
https://www.seoclerk.com/user/W130SN

https://www.seoclerk.com/user/W130SN
https://www.seoclerks.com/user/W130SN

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W130SN

Also how does the complaints procedure work on seoclerk and MicroJunky?
Will a complaint received at MB or MJ affect my SEOClerks account?
I have set my prices at what I believe my services are worth, if I valued them higher then I would charge more.

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sunil0021

https://www.seoclerk.com/user/W130SN
https://www.seoclerks.com/user/W130SN

seoclerk is totally different and created for affilaites like a.seoclerk and also created because seoclerks is spammed alot of social media sites so a new domain help us grow.

2 months ago google penalized seoclerks and no services is seen on homepage, so we moved to seoclerk.

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